Karen Dehais
Concluding this season is a conversation with Karen Dehais ’85, detailing her work with Catholic Charities, her continued service to Notre Dame, and thoughts on finding balance in her career and family life.
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The Lord said:
“Woe to you Pharisees!
You pay tithes of mint and of rue and of every garden herb,
but you pay no attention to judgment and to love for God.
These you should have done, without overlooking the others.
Woe to you Pharisees!
You love the seat of honor in synagogues
and greetings in marketplaces.
Woe to you!
You are like unseen graves over which people unknowingly walk.”
Then one of the scholars of the law said to him in reply,
“Teacher, by saying this you are insulting us too.”
And he said, “Woe also to you scholars of the law!
You impose on people burdens hard to carry,
but you yourselves do not lift one finger to touch them.”
Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission. All rights reserved. No portion of this text may be reproduced by any means without permission in writing from the copyright owner. The full readings of the day from the Lectionary are available here.
Growing up, I always enjoyed school. But as I got older, I began to put more and more of my identity into being good at it. I had to pass every lesson, ace every test, and most importantly, never seem like I didn’t understand what was going on. And then, one day in seminary, the realization struck me: if I really wanted to learn, I was going to have to admit that I didn’t already know. It seems obvious in hindsight, but when I focused on seeming good, I wasn’t able to actually get better.
Jesus’ words to the Pharisees in the gospel today can sound harsh: “Woe to you!” he tells them, again and again. He wants to get their attention, to wake them up, that even as they’re trying to keep up appearances by observing the details of the Law, they’ve stopped paying attention to its core—to love for God.
But if the Pharisees are going to really be good—not just appear good—then things are going to have to change. Jesus’ words may sound harsh, but we have to keep in mind that he’s never cruel. He wants the Pharisees to be good, not just seem like it. And sometimes it takes a strong medicine, like hearing, “Woe to you!” to begin to heal us. For God to lead us to himself, we first need to hear God’s voice calling us to recognize where we’re at; then, with God’s help, we can set out.
Protect us from egos that seek glory over God’s love of others; give us wisdom to realize that all that really matters is honoring your will. Strengthen us this day so we sidestep the temptation of earthly applause just to appear a little more important to the detriment of doing what is truly important. Amen.
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Karen Dehais
Concluding this season is a conversation with Karen Dehais ’85, detailing her work with Catholic Charities, her continued service to Notre Dame, and thoughts on finding balance in her career and family life.
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Deacon Kevin Conneely
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Dr. Joanna Fava
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Fr. Mark Poorman, CSC
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Bobby Kloska
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Sr. Mariana Koonce, RSM
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Kristin Komyatte Sheehan
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Tim and Ryan O’Neill
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Laura Kelly Fanucci
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Fr. Joe Carey, CSC
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Prof. Margaret Pfeil
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Fr. Lou DelFra, CSC
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Avis Boyd
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Tim and Lindsay Will
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Dr. Andrew McShane
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Lisa Orchen
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